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Meeting with Congressman Kind Tuesday, January 5, 2010

Representative Kind is demanding transparency, accountability, and access to refugees. He is requesting that the Lao government allow members of the American Embassy to visit with the Hmong families and access their needs. Representative Kind will collaborate with Chairman of the U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Representative Howard Berman (CA), on drafting a letter to the Lao government and will meet with a bipartisan group to brainstorm as to what action needs to be taken when he returns to Washington D. C.

*Some important information will be shared when the appropriate time comes. A statement from Representative Kind may be released within 24 - 48 hours.

Janet Slind is organizing a meeting in the Eau Claire area with local Hmong people.

Reactions:   Thai Vue expressed several concerns: he felt that the Hmong refugees are not a high priority for Congress, he feels that the Hmong refugees sense a loss of hope because of the repatriation, he expressed a desire for measurable accountability, he feels that negotiations with Lao or Thai governments take forever, and that there are many former Hmong veterans who fought in the “Secret War” that need protection. Mr. Vue posed this question to Representative Kind: “Can you … will you … along with Congress provide protection to the Hmong Refugees?”

Some challenges: Getting the bipartisan group to work with the State Department to give this issue top priority. The United States has little leverage with Thailand and Laos. Thailand faces significant political pressure from Laos. Representative Kind asked if the Lao Government knew which Hmong refugees worked for the CIA during the Vietnam War. How will the U. S. know who to help if there is not a list? If a list were to be composed and given to the Lao government, would this pose a safety concern for the Hmong veterans? In response, Thai Vue said that the Lao government knows which Hmong refugees worked for the CIA. Mr. Vue said that these veterans should be allowed to leave Laos.

As we were meeting, registration of all Hmong refugees was to be taking place. Again, Thai Vue reaffirmed that the Lao government must be held accountable for the Hmong veterans.

Top priority:  the safety and well-being of the 158 UNHCR screened Hmong refugees. Representative Kind said that the U. S. is awaiting confirmation about the removal of the 158 Hmong from the Nong Khai Detention Center. These documented refugees need to be resettled NOW!       

Thai Vue said that his sources told of the Hmong people leaving behind personal belongings, many suffered beatings, and some were jailed upon entering Laos. Again, he reaffirmed that all Hmong people must have their basic needs taken care of and be treated fairly. 

Representative Kind responded that the United States, France, Australia, Germany, and Great Britain have offered assistance such as food and medical attention. He continued that now while on Lao soil the Hmong people can begin applying for visas. (Who will help them do this?) Likely, costs for visas would be waived. If this is successful, host families may be needed at a later date. 

Zong Vang related that he was told that the screening process involved picture taking. After the screening, some Hmong were released while others were detained. He continued that the “jungle people” have no family or home to relocate to. In response, Representative Kind said that supposedly the Lao government built 150 new homes for this relocation. Kind will check on this. 

Victor Yang, shared that people were arrested that refused to leave the Thai camp, the soldiers sprayed tear gas, people were not allowed to take personal belongings, some Hmong who were initially jailed, have been released but it’s unknown what future they may have. Victor made a personal plea that Representative Kind help to bring Sandy’s father and family here to the U.S.

Representative Kind asked if they had heard of any reports of mistreatment since arriving in Laos. But it is too early to have any documented accounts. 

Sandy Her made an emotional appeal also for the safety and well-being of her father and family. She has suffered many losses of family members including her mother, a brother, and sister. It has been emotionally damaging to Sandy to continue to hear bad news about her family. At times, she feels the situation to be hopeless and unbearably despairing. 

Representative Kind stated that he will work on:

  • asking for immediate access to the Hmong people

  • seek to allow international groups access

  • providing medical and food assistance

  • work on obtaining refugee status for those qualifying and then visas

Representative Kind asked “do the Hmong feel any hope for the future?”

Thai Vue answered that they feel “no hope” just a “dead end” now that they are in Laos. They fear possible death now and have very little hope of being rescued. It is possible that given an opportunity they will escape. Mr. Vue also stated that to assure accountability a visit by members of Congress is warranted. Representative Kind said that the Lao government would need to approve of such a visit first. It is important that our Embassy in Laos gain access to the Hmong people so that the U. S. can receive reliable information. NGO’s on the ground will be able to gather important information and are more reliable than Congressional visits in which officials are shown only what the hosting government wishes. But Representative Kind will follow-up with the State Department about a future visit. 

Rev. Moua stated the importance of urgency in helping the Hmong people so as to protect them from being murdered and disappearing. He hopes we can work with other countries to raise our voices more loudly. 

Representative Kind reaffirmed that our Embassy is in touch with the Lao government, he will continue to demand accountability, and he will draft a letter with Representative Berman.

Rev. Moua said that he heard that our State Department approved the “repatriation”. Representative Kind stated that our government was against the “repatriation”. He emphasized that the U. S. was clear about not wanting this to happen and was mislead by the Thai government. 

Wanda asked if Thailand had broken any international laws with the repatriation. And if so what consequences would Thailand suffer.  

Representative Kind said that he would check to see if Thailand violated any laws and that a State Department official would come to La Crosse and give an update on the events in Laos. Any correspondence from Representative Kind will come from the D.C. office or from Janet Slind via e-mail. 

Currently we have a trade agreement with Laos and a bi-lateral trade agreement with Thailand. The U. S. does not have any substantial foreign investments with Thailand.

 The meeting adjourned just before noon.         

Attending:

Thai Vue, Zong Vang, Victor Yang, Sandy Her, Wanda Wochos, Rev Houa     Moua, Pat Soell

 Update:

           Representative Kind wrote a letter on January 4, 2010 to Secretary of State Clinton (see attachment)